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Mona Bohamad2: Okay I think that people can say whatever they want about Esteban being a villain or a jerk he's probably still at times more of a jerk than a villain but maybe Victor is still kinda far worse than Esteban although yes he:(victor): still clearly cares about his daughter Carla and maybe also a bit about his power hungry-seeking wife:(Ash): who seems to be sorta FAR worse than possibly both her husband and daughter combined and maybe also arguably one of thee very worst opponents that Elena will EVER have/has to face someday