WHAT Went Wrong With Arcane Season 2 Finale
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@Verlisify: Actually, how Ekko gets nothing positive for being the selfless GOAT he is makes the Arcane finale even worseНаписать
@felixonline1825: Havent watched this video (yet? May aswell leave a comment for the algo) Imo the only scene that truly bothered me was Caytlin Vi dungeon scene, if theres anything to nitpick from this I find that to be my biggest grievance, timing was awful. Otherwise? I think I really liked this ending for Arcane, its bittersweet but felt like a more probable ending considering the circumstances of this universe, a too happy ending wasnt going to cut it. Ill probably watch this in a bit
@touchoflight124: You don’t represent all league players mate. Pathetic
@mpmpjano6034: U sucked ur channel sucked
@House-of-Hades: I still like Arcane, but the fact is that it was rushed and needed another season. I hope they learn from this and next time they only tell as many stories as they can make.
@shqy9178: I’m just left thinking wtf just happened. I’m not sad or happy about it. The ending just feels empty?
@keqingspotato1027: the ending seems like not the ending at all, what a shame😢
@selfdescedgelord7699: Episode 9 should have been an entire act. In fact the entire season is actually 2 seasons compressed into one
@my2randomcents: I loved act 3 BUT i do have one problem with the writing I understand time was a constraint but Viktor's opening dialogue with Ambessa does not convey his:"I wanted to save Vander and humanity even if I become powerless" to" the doctor made me change my mind" arc seen in Act 2, but it rather comes across as"making them robots was always my intention". Which makes him always seem evil, which was not the story development the series presented specially siding with Ambessa when her warmorgering is precissely what caused the whole problem
@PrejTik: I was so hyped for the 3rd Act. Now Im just sad....
@codyd7841: because they never explain until an episode later that jace has been in an alternate timeline it felt like he went wacko out of nowhere. im personally a little sick of the trend of using alternate timelines or alternate realities It feels like writing hacks for giving solutions and information that cant naturally be extracted.
@antares3030: * ekko did fucking nothing in the whole series while having possibly the strongest power in posession and strong motivation * why the f did heimer die * what was the purpose of warwick even * why did they suddenly forget the whole PnZ ordeal and it's about Viktor's cult now for the finale, while it should've been a separate subplot at best * why tf did Viktor become the most basic ass villain imaginable right out of the blue * why tf is Arcane doing void stuf, but not really? * how tf did superViktor visit all of multiverse * I won't ever believe that it wasn't Ryze in the first place, it must have been retconned, it was clearly him, he even casted his ultimate and it's so out of character for Viktor, he's not a fucking mage, he's a tech guy like come on * why tf did he give Jayce the gemstone THAT STARTED IT ALL to supposedly STOP HEXTECH?? * why in the hell are they fucking in the jail cell when they're being invaded and jinx went to kill herself * why in the f did mel kill Ambessa via Leblanc? she was already defenseless, just make a fucking shield around her * Isha died to just never be spoken about again, same as Heimer
@playit152: Oh okay maybe I’m out of touch or too old but I liked it. From an non-league player pov, I think the narrative was driven well. And I don’t want things to end cannon to the game because it means characters don’t have plot armor which is always a good thing. Season 2 was a little rushed sure and the second act for me was meh all over the place but I think they wrapped it up pretty nicely
@candemirayak8981: The only problem was that it didn't have more episodes. It was absolutely amazing.
@robbstark2813: I agree that they got too “magical” with it, I was enjoying the political drama. They spent a lot of time on the hex stuff and I think that time could have been spent better elsewhere. Overall though, I enjoyed it for sure!
@cerindraco8407: half the final episode i was sitting there thinking we were goin to get time looped back because people were dying and everything was going bad off the rip, but no... everything just went to shit...
@Wormopera: It entirely could have been solved if Jayce talked to Viktor instead of exploding him
@hitetsu9180: Yall are expecting stuff to have happy endings and all the game characters to survive. It was already stated that arcane was the new canon and would rewrite league's canon. Imo, it would be meh if all the game characters survived, it would be too predictable, I think it's a good move to kill of certain league characters, so even they are left without plot armor. Some of the points you mentioned, like Jinx pushing Heimer out of the way does not make sense. She does not even know what was going on, so why would she just push him away? That's not really how normal people behave. All she knew was that Heimer and Ekko were working on a project, she did not know Heimer would die.
@technocat9821: Ngl, I was expecting viktor to have planned everything, code geass style (not gonna spoil it, tho spoilers may be induced): I thought Viktor wanted to make himself into a common enemy for piltover and zaun to unite over, I'm fine with the whole time loop and echo ultimately coming in to save the day, but viktor ultimately sacrificing everything to unite his two cities would've been great
@storm7118: You forgot an important point, there is a war on Piltover and Camille did not participate in the war, so why did they say in her story that she is the protector of Piltover and blah blah blah?
@josephpiano1999: Warwick had Ga, Revive, Zilean ult, Renata W and Akshan passive in this show. Just let the mf die in peace aldready💀
@Of_infinite_Faith: I have a strong feeling that they hadn't planned for Victor to be the Mage in Jayce's childhood from the beginning and suddenly decided to add it in
@HatsNaz: They shouldnt make plot that global ( time travel, world threat etc). Riot failed almost every character story, and ye, only Singed gets his deserved finale. For a moment, i tho that Ekko like Rintarou Okabe (Stein's Gate) could reset the world and make Runeterra prime timeline xD
@shiroblaidd: Worst part is that s2 is inferior to existing game canon in almost every way, but Riot wants to replace that canon with Arcane... Only part I personally liked in act 3 is Jinx becoming 'good' but that's just cause I like Jinx, I can see how that is objectively not the best thing lore-wise
@notaplant2132: I agree with the execution of the death of the orange-haired girl. It's very much alike to how a person dies of a richochet to the head would look like, brutal (just the action is nice to see, the building up does not settle in fine). Also, I think that important characters dying senseless, meaningless in the battle is cool. I mean, it's war, people drop here and there, does not matter you are MC or not, time's up, you dead. The rest I agree. There are so many ideas that are really interesting, but it's too much to explore in the discipline or this show and prematurely cutting off these ideas reduces the show quality overall.
@romanbloomfield9066: I really think they should have used Viktor and Jayce as a conduit to introduce more of the universe. These guys were fucking with forces way beyond them. It felt like it was going to tie in to the Void somehow with the Hexcore “corruption”. I thought Jayce was gonna discover something to do with it while inside the Arcane. I thought Mel was gonna turn out to be Shuriman somehow but they don’t expound on that any further. I think the show ultimately suffered from having too many main characters. It started to feel difficult to care about the whole Jinx/Vi/Cait scenario after what happened to Jayce and co. in the Hexgate. I loved that part of the season but it really detracted my interest from the rest of the show
@jmanker: Real Lol players hate the game but love the show. The MVP's are those that failed no nut November because of the last chapter.
@MiniMotoAlliance: Thankfully I've never played the game so I don't care. It's a great show
@snorg70: I literally stopped watching after WW’s ugly fake mug was revealed - just couldn’t go back
@archistt: i personally disagree and enjoyed the show and thought it was a good ending for the show i do think that freaky scene with Vi and Cait was thrown in for no good reason, it just felt like fan service I thought the part where Zaun and Piltover uniting against Noxus doesn’t make too much sense either with how Piltover and Zaun reunited for “saving the world” from the Arcane with no hesitation (i think there should’ve been at least some buildup to their uniting) but I can see it making sense with Jinx being the current symbol of rebellion (and her reconnections with Vi throughout Act II) along with Ekko (the previous Zaunite savior) I do see how they could’ve recruited people off screen to help Piltover (should’ve been on screen though) I dont think a third season is necessary, I just think the runtime of Act III should’ve been stretched a bit longer than normal to fully flesh out all the woven threads together
@crusaderofthenile4829: Can’t wait to see Necrit try to solve this one xd final took a 180 from where I thought it was going
@jackdiblasi5289: Idk I’m not huge into league lore, I’ve watch an hour long video about it. But thought the show was good. 🙂 looked super cool, and made me feel feely things. While not all the story lines were wrapped up it leaves room for more shows that would be really cool. I mean there were so many badass moments and crazy scenarios. I don’t think it’s perfect any means and it probably wrecked decade old lore but common it is some dope cinema.
@xernoisvillainous: I mean your opinion is your opinion but you can't just pull facts outta your ass and say their true like there was lots of people that started playing league for the again or for the first time because of Arcane you can just look at the player counts and pick rates for the Arcane champs when it came out. There are also lots of non-league players that watch the show, so saying that it should cater towards existing players in the game isn't true and a bad business move on riots part.
@papastrella.ianmussari: For me, this season ends on act 2. They could've ended the show with an open ending liked they did on season 1. Hell even it would have been so much better to stretch 3 more episodes around the thematics of act 1 and 2. Act 3 is totally pointless and feels rushed.
@Zephyr_Weiss: Jinx is still alive
@d4darwin458: Non of my friends know league but all of them love arcane So I think it's mostly a league of legends fan issue
@olianims: Arcane singlehandedly retcons damn near half of leagues roster. Every zaun champion is now retconned. Every ionian champion never existed.
@thamutha: Singed won XD
@jaredwallace3270: It was great
@TheJanooby: They imo ruined jinx
@HypoCT: What they did with Ekko, man. Jayce and Viktor wrapped up, Mel wrapped up, Vi and Cait finally settles, Jinx flew away in a cool airship, Singed got a happy ending, but Ekko?! After that moment with heimerdinger. Like, come oooon
@quentinbarker6767: I liked all of the show and all of season two, except for how the decided to end things. We all know Arcane is over, they will no focus on spinoffs for the unuiverse. Where my problem lies is, we are only shown the true endings to Singed, Oriana's, Vi's, and Caitlyn's stories. While JInx, Jayce, Victor, Ekko, and Warwick, all have no sort of conclusion to their story arcs or characters imo.
@The_Rum: Lets be honest here. There was never an outcome that will make season 2 satisfying. Its a matter of how much they can cram and how cohesive it is at the end given the massive restrictions it has. It still acceptable overall. The Riot higher-ups approved 2 seasons. And that’s it. So props to Christian, Fortiche and co for a such difficult task.
@hekimaXO: I simply cannot wrap my head around all of the champions they killed off. How does that even make sense in a game? If they’re dead they shouldn’t even be in the game, but removing champions considering they’re not even in the lore anymore would cause backlash with everyone who’s spent money on these champions (for example skins). I get that Arcane is probably picking up way beyond LoL’s lore but it still makes 0 sense to kill off their characters idk. Thats kinda my only nitpick? The deaths felt unnecessary, Heimerdinger just goes “poof” and is never mentioned again, Ambessa just gets killed by Mel which, I guess kinda makes sense? Jayce and Viktor are off on a honeymoon together in who knows where. Warwick just exploded, again. And Jinx “died” for no real reason, Warwick waking up out of nowhere just felt so forced. She and Vi didn’t even get to actually talk like sisters. Also I put dead in quotation marks given all of the hints pointing that Jinx is alive considering none of the frames are a mistake in this show
@joshuamunoz3310: Nothing bro touch grass
@RobertSimmonsAirship: Season 2 was a bit rushed but it’s still a masterpiece. The character work second to none, let alone the animation. League of legends doesn’t deserve Arcane.
@XennaShieldOP-pu6le: This better not win at the game awards for best adaptation. It should be Fallout.
@pointnclick22: I dont think this season was “bad” i just think the story lines were very rushed. It sits at about 7.5/10 for me (with season 1 being 9.8/10) if they stretched this season’s stories into a season 3 it would have been an easy 10/10 for me. The VA and animation was still top notch. The ONLY issue was the pacing.
@cancerconnoisseur: This show worries me, because if this is the new canon and if this is the new Jinx and Warwick and Viktor... Their personalities are permanently changed and warped... Along with their appearances and who they are. They never came back around to who they're supposed to be, the characters that we actually enjoy... So is this who those characters are now? Ambessa just showed up and... she's dead? Heimerdinger is dead? Warwick is... Dead/robotified?
@lunchtime2960: This show was awesome
@traumatizedcritic8679: 12:55 Caitlyn and Maddie weren’t ever serious. She was just a rebound to a terrible breakup.
@traumatizedcritic8679: 10:44 I don’t think you can be a “real fan” necessarily. I started looking into LoL lore after watching season 1, and I can tell you after playing the game for some time, I personally prefer the show FAR MORE than the game with its more plain approach to the world building and archetypal, 1-2-dimensional characters. This show alone brought life back into the game and the idea of LoL as a whole, and so what if they deviate a little bit from the “original” lore of the game (that’s already been changed like 2-3 times). Besides, I think the story of Arcane is better than that of the game.
@traumatizedcritic8679: 10:44 I don’t think you can be a “real fan” necessarily. I started looking into LoL lore after watching season 1, and I can tell you after playing the game for some time, I personally prefer the show FAR MORE than the game with its more plain approach to the world building and archetypal, 1-2-dimensional characters. This show alone brought life back into the game and the idea of LoL as a whole, and so what if they deviate a little bit from the “original” lore of the game (that’s already been changed like 2-3 times). Besides, I think the story of Arcane is better than that of the game.
@earthwormridingacoolskateb7177: Netflix has historically rushed almost all of their animated shows at some point, usually for finales. While I do think riot (or whatever company was in control) initially gave their team the time they needed..it was definitely missing here. It's so clear what they wanted to do and I got that vision, but i could absolutely tell there were times that the writers NEEDED a second guess. Warwick/vander should've been vaporized in the explosion and gone. His appearance in the climax felt hollow as a result and made isha's beautiful sacrifice vain. Other things that should've been handled better were Mel's and subsequently Noxius' arcs. I'm not a league player, never will be lol but I think the biggest hit to the finale was the writers desperate to shove Noxus into the main conflict. Ambessa's plan was shockingly silly considering how intelligent she was in the first act and she should have either died differently or not at all. Mel's story and ascension was also super vague and flat, it doesn't do mucb for her character because we always have to cut away before we know how she feels. The main characters were also jinx and vi, with the main conflict as a whole being centered around viktor, this was foreshadowed heavily in season 1. I don't know about the working conditions at riot but it really feels like an exec popped in to say "hey don't forget to leave hints of our next big show" which forced the writers to scramble to add all that to climax. It overshadowed what should've been big emotional moments like the evolved people showing up. It also made the battle timeline confusing since all the cuts just went between noxus winning and piltover losing for no reason. Sorry for the long rant, it's just super upsetting seeing a nearly perfect show made by incredibly talented people being fumbled because those people couldn't second guess themselves.
@johnnyrebel4real166: where is the surrender at 15? or the toxic comments? 0/10
@Troub4dour: I think you are super wrong about the finale. I’m completely satisfied. It’s not perfect, but considering the constraints, I think it was as good as we could have hoped for.
@dcs2390: Boo to this video it was great
@Rianno444: Bro this ending was peak fiction nobody cares about League Legends Arcane is the best thing to come out of that franchise
@asgo7320: Nothing. Nothing went wrong with it. To me it was perfect. And I think you have to watch it more than one time.
@connordavisj: I thought the season was a total train wreck of narrative and pacing but I'm still thumbing you down for being a furry.
@electrikjohn8954: It boiled down to neurotic women with mommy/daddy issues and your Black Jesus prodigies with Jayce and Viktor occasionally showing up having the most schizo fallout ever. You can’t hate modern writing enough. Half an episode in a 9 episode season wasted on sountracks or pointless lesbian sex scenes.
@bogdanoli: As a player and a fan of the lore I agree 100% with the sentiments. I just hope this is a timeline is not cannon, like when will Viktor make Blitzcrank now. But as a story I still liked it and I think that people who have no idea about the lore will enjoy it more than us, and that is fine as well.
@drewpiestopsign: It followed all the tropes of stupidly self sacraficing and suffering lazy writing. Everyone sacraficed themselves only to be "Wait their not really dead". Its so stupid. ITs a slap in teh face to the audience
@HAARYCS: Worst ending for a great show 😢
@KC-dq5ru: this shouldve been ekkos show fr this shit blows
@BeeMusic2024: Insert Vi shoving that one guy then flipping him off
@fossil_blue_zx2: Yes it did suck
@leigon4390: Damn bro has no writing background and it shows never let him cook again.
@luisangulo5332: despite my personal gripes, season 1 felt planned and was perfectly paced. Season 2 was rushed af and though conceptually its impressive in the execution department it was definitly lacking
@dominikwinkler6345: Braindead take. Stop playing so much league, its not good for your brain.
@SpoiledMilk321: agree 100% it maybe would have been more enjoyable if i didn't play league but knowing how good it could have been easily done by making references to the game and giving those moments of recognizing someone in the game would have made it so much better and it would legit have no negative impact on those who don't play, i cant understand why they didn't and instead made a woke show trying to appeal to the weird fandoms online
@Blackinght11: Yes, you are out of touch, lol
@Decodedvirus: arcane s2 was written as an after thought and it shows
@jellalft8157: They added timelines to solve their logic ahh shit about champs summoned in game. Like Marvel comic when all alive and MCU
@DanielClifton-sm4vl: echo should have stayed in that future
@Saradin_Gein: You couldn't be more full of shit.
@TakRoYu: It's a well done rush, well done but still rushed so it's potential is still wasted
@optimisticknight: Why do women with long hair always have to cut off their hair when they get "serious"? It's such an annoying trope
@Thatchaoticelf: I’m not a league fan and y’all got so much more context than we ever got in season two!! The montages killed the hype of season one’s beautiful world and character building!! They didn’t make this show for random people and they didn’t make it for league fans and it became rushed and now we are watching it fall apart cause they made their money and got their placements for their release for the next project and moved on like riot does. It was too fast and unfocused. I’m really disappointed cause I can see where they wanted to go but they didn’t have any time for any of it to breath and become impactful. Jinx and Ekko (endings aside) are the best written characters CONSISTENTLY which is hugely disappointing (also wtf I’m Gen Z and y’all aren’t giving us enough credit cause A)you think we are 13 and B)a few of us like a few of millennial are just idiots lol give us some credit man)
@angelalveras101: Vi wanting some Caitlynussy over stopping Jinx from killing herself is what bothered me the most. Like it couldn’t have been THAT good to go and ignore your sibling you’ve been obsessed and protective for over a season and a half.
@sixxkzs242: You're so right bro. I was so confused as to why I felt so empty after watching but this sums it up so well. I'm disappointed by the final few episodes not gonna lie.
@watchover5054: i think there was too much, the episode that i felt a little bit too rushed was the 8, if the had more episodes it could've been better but probably they didn't have the budget to do more episodes. But i have to say that i think i will like the finale more in a rewatch, because even if it was rushed i still felt like i had a loss. For the lol things that you talk about i don't really care because it was never about that, and you can't say that it '' sucked' because even if it has problems sill remains one of the best shows ever, but i agree with the deaths they could've cut all the red rose thing and continue the war in the 3rd season but they did evrything in a 40 minute episode
@Gavirael: I think the point was the high and lows. Bad and good. Ups and downs even though kept feeling like there were way more downs then up. There was a bit of redemption
@LuisCarlos-oo9im: For me it didn't sucked at all, maybe for the fans of LoL weren't the best of the best for them, and I get it, but for people like me that never liked LoL and just got interested in the lore, this show was an amazing example to follow.
@vishaljoy6802: Show was 11/10 till ep 7
@Daria-Morgendorffer: Everytime something foes wrong jinx blows herself up it kinda lost impact for the last scene, that and there was too many sacrifices like the little rat guy felt unnecessary Was super into it but I feel like it peaked at episode 6 then everything after felt kinda meh in comparison 😭 and it was like...somehow confusing even though I knew what was going on I felt like I didn't xd
@michaeleggimann106: League of legends fans might not really deserve better But arcane season 1 fans. They did.. for sure. Adaptation aside- one of the best damn shows I’ve seen. Uniquely potent in nearly every moment during season 1. Season 2 had some real moments. And threads, but bro they couldn’t recreate it.. or what was said about they were forced to conclude show with less seasons than was written for
@nikitaplotnikov9118: Bro what the finale was not bad 💀
@BraanFlakes08: Damn y’all are no fun at all jesus
@zillonemperor2: Lol fan crying
@moatezmoussi9751: To me it's the woke. The LGHDTV++ are not holding back
@spookys1695: "what went wrong" are you stupid, it was great
@jordanmoore730: Yeah most people know except for your dick riders that your opinions are thrash so imma keep scrolling
@williamharvey7110: Damn yall just hating
@Ardylynn: I think the problem isn't with anything with Act 3, it was probably the best act in all of Arcane. The problem I have is how little Act 2 mattered, I can sum it up really quickly: Episode 4 - Warwick Exists, Episode 5 - It's actually Vander and Episode 6 - He's dead. We spent so long on nothing, that they had to do an entire season worth of story in the last 3 episodes. I think Season 1 is better in almost every part, I think Marcus from season 1 had better writing than everyone is Season 2. I think they made Maddie a traitor just so they could kill her off without people being mad at killing a lesbian.
@raidengoodman8754: "LoL fans deserve better." Opinion now invalid
@jojomojo2349: shut your dumbass up
@Monarchplayer: They should make a third season, i didn't like the ending where jinx and echo didn't get a happy ending
@edzoawesome7936: You’re so wrong show was great and never supposed to be fully faithful to the old league lore. Ur just upset cause you somehow felt entitled to more fan service? Yeah idk bro
@davidpalima1670: Spoiler warning!!!! . . . . . . . . Don't forget that despite Arcane's different trajectory — it already established the idea of a multiverse after controlling time. That way, i think the old lore can still be kept hehe
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