LIVE CHAT - What Jeffree Star, Trisha Paytas, and serial killers have in common...
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Corinne,s Kitchen: The amount of ads she put on her videos,at an average of 4.19 per 1000 views shes making a chunk of change from the drama as she always does.She also knew all of this over a year ago so why not call out the people involved then.The wig guy is vile and spewed absolute poison should she have made a video disrespecting his work?no she shouldnt have,she should have dealt with it as a grown up,privately,when she thought she was being overcharged.But drama makes coins,something she knows how to do online.Написать
Lottie Luna: I just want to say thank you Jen for speaking out that you were diagnosed with ADHD as an adult. I'm 29 and was diagnosed as Borderline (BPD) in my early 20s (as someone mentions Trisha may have too) - but I'm currently going through getting ADHD and Autism diagnoses. I want to add to the conversation by saying that yes, you're right - someone may have experienced abuse and have mental health issues but that does not excuse causing harm to others, and while I don't know much about Paytas it does seem as though she thrives on the repeated patterns of drama. What this Jae fella said, and obviously Jeffrey as a person, was awful. But equally Trisha needs to get her issues in check. Trisha needs to seek help to break that pattern.
Ada Snodgrass: Wish you would’ve have given them attention
Buck Kite: She isn't a bipolar .. She was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. One of the reason she made that video is she felt like Jay was going to physically going to hurt her. Jay doxed her business address and phone number. He was driving around her house and took pictures of her and Moses's cars. She told this to Ethan from H3
L K: Lol oy vey Trisha, a chicken nugget??
Kym Nadal: Anyone who talks about you behind your back is a backstabber, in my book. They aren't friends. I don't know Trisha at all but she didn't look like she was acting in the crying vid. I feel her pain and know what that feels like💔
Mel: Another awesome live chat!
Andrea M: All I hear is a whole lot of victim-blaming. I do not think that Trisha is a good person, nor do I particularly like her. However, you absolutely cannot defend that scumbag talking so badly about her. I commend her for making that video and bringing light to the things that man said in his instagram live. People SHOULD know how Jeffree and his posse talk about their own "friends" behind the scenes. Edited to add: NO ONE deserves to be talked about the way Jay talked about Trisha. He threatened her and full-on doxxed her.
Leann Reptile: I absolutely the coloured lights in your background! Where did you get them? I'd love them in my beauty room!
Carlie Carlie: *unpopular opinion: I dont feel bad for Trishya Paytas. She says and does hurtful things to a lot of different ppl/groups FOR ATTENTION with no regard for their feelings so this is her karma*
Jessica Marie: I love your shirt, Jen! This was a good live! ❤️
Maria ross: Yaay...common sense.....its all about them staying "relevant". If i was completely shattered and distraught the last thing id do is turn on a camera to cry!!! And Trisha is just as hurtful to others. Its all about views!!!!!
Emily Nicole: Your comment about this being a publicity stunt i disagree with this time. Ik her track record isn't clean but what was said was out of line for anyone if you remove trish out of the equation. She did not puppeteer Jay to say those horrible things to her. And her reaction video you can tell it has a different genuine tone of sadness. This situation was 100% real so I disagree when u said "maybe its real" and proceeded to say "we may never know". And I disagree when you keep repeating "MAYBE its possible that she knew him is the case of why she's upset at all". That is exactly the case. But you kept repeating she gets these comments all the time whats the difference? Thats the difference.
Betsy/BA BF: You see people talking about, insulting and bashing, saying what bad people they are for bashing, insulting, talking about others, thinking that makes them better people, picking out bad behavior. No, they are the same people, having the same bad behavior. Honestly, it's probably worse because they are doing it thinking that makes them better people, being hypocrites. Anyone spending their time on the internet talking about another person, insulting, bashing, pointing out 'how bad they are', spending one's time trying to find, twist, call out what everyone else does wrong, aren't good humans and if they want to pick out bad people with bad behavior, it can be done by looking in the mirror.
Skylier McKenzie: School shootings happened way before Columbine. Columbine was just the first time it got news media.
Casey Goodnow: First and foremost I absolutely Love and Respect you Jen, I think you're everything and more that your sign says in your backdrop. I just have to be honest myself and say I see your point that you make about perpetuating more awful people with fame and all of that and it is 100% valid and I agree. I DO NOT AND CANNOT AGREE with the followup and answer to that being we have to not talk about it and bring attention to it. It is completely IMPERATIVE that we make public the info on serial killers, assaults and murders and bad behavior because we need to teach people that this is REAL and IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE. You must understand it in order to not fall into it yourself or get caught in it with said monster/human. Knowledge is power and gives you more for your future discernment in potential scenarios and situations with these people. Everyone should know about these things in life.
Dr. Sidd: I thought I'd shed some light in this matter, as everyone is referring to these people as having mental illnesses. This term would be too broad from a psychological point of view, and it generalises and so throws them into the mix of all mental illnesses, some of which are legitimate and do cause someone to lose control of themselves. There are genetic factors, environmental factors and then there are factors that you choose to act on. In short, the pattern you recognised and also narcissism which is a very common characteristic in most of these types of people, are categorised as personality disorders. They all suffer from a personality disorder, probably different ones but they are in the same family of mental problems. What mostly people don't know is that personality disorders are very different from all other mental illnesses, and what makes these kind of people different is that everything they do is a conscious choice that they make. There is no emotional or physical hindrance that causes their actions, it's purely by choice. This changes the whole perspective, because they don't have an illness, their way of thinking is ill, which is the problem, hence the term sociopath arises. Everything they do and feel is solely for their benefit, nothing but they exist to themselves. Of course, having studied psychology I wanted to throw some information out there. I wouldn't be surprised if they all sat together and planned everything out for this drama and cut a deal of some kind. It could have been the other way around as well that they decided to discard each other as they like to 'feed' off of others' pain. Like you said Jen, it's our attention that fuels them and their beahviour, so this video shouldn't have been made, you were right in the first place :)
Star: This episode this episode was very interesting. I don't think that there's anything wrong with Trisha Paytas or Jeffree Starr.. both of them are narcissistic attention-seeking people. I used to be a fan of Jeffrey's but no longer he's just too much of a drama person..
Catalina G.: This happens when you give people the hability to make insane amounts of money overnight, but that did not came with proper education #socialmobility
Michelle H: From what I understand, all this started with a business dispute between Trisha and Jay over his alleged? price gouging on a wig he made for her and HE brought up the trip in his video. I don't follow any of these people and they are all toxic AF but apparently, their treatment of her on that trip was confirmed by other people who were there. And these are not other trolls or random strangers online attacking her. These are people she spent time with in real life and apparently once considered friends. I have to say Jen, I'm disappointed right now and I had to leave the stream because you completely invalidated a person's feelings on being bullied, verbally abused, doxed, and threatened all because that person has been troll in the past. Yes, Trisha has apparently cried wolf too many times but this man attacked her on a freaking video. I mean, sure, don't believe her when she claims she's a chicken nugget and take issue when she trolls other communities for views. But I feel people deserve the benefit of the doubt when there is actual proof of being verbally abused, threatened, and doxed. Maybe that's just naïve of me though.
Morgan Musick: First off. I am SO excited about the eye shadow product Sam is putting out. I love that the powder, cream, & powder + cream is all the same shade. However within the component, each separate version, when applied gives you 3 different colors & looks. It’s not like different versions of the same color with one just being more shiny than the other (e.g. Textured Neutrals - btw I love Tati’s palette. It’s currently my favorite.). But I love that the swatches give you different colors. Idk how I feel about the price point. I wish she would have addressed it in her video. I’ll have to dig deeper into the formula on these. If I’m paying for a better formula I don’t have an issue with that. But that packaging is veryyyy custom. That eye shadow component, is AWESOME!! I stan packaging just as much as the next person, but even if you say you have 3 different colors & not 2, I’m paying $13 for a single eye shadow. $19 each of you say there are 2 shade. That’s freaking expensive af. TLDR. I would rather pay money for a good formula than pay more for the product solely for the packaging. I’ll have to dig into it. I wish she would have gone into that in the video. But just having a short look at them, they really are stunning & different from most launches. Love it!! I’m just torn on the price. 💕
Liz: I respect your opinion Jen and you definitely have some valid points but I think you missed the point about this Trisha and HairbyJay situation. There were two different people that have backed Trisha’s story about what was said about her. At this time she was going through a lot; the Jason situation. She didn’t talk about it at the time because she didn’t want to deal with it but as anyone that has been in that type of situation those feelings don’t just leave you. When you are humiliated you don’t just let that go, even after a year. When one of those individuals goes live and threatens her and you can genuinely see that in her face she was scared for her safety. As for the DID, she made a video after seeing Dissasidid she related to how she explains her diagnosis and normally Trisha puts herself in a group to feel like she fits in. They then made a response video basically dismissing her saying she doesn’t or probably doesn’t have it. So as Trisha normally does... she trolls and did what knows to do in defense and fakes the extent of the disorder. She explained this on frenimies. I think people need to give Trisha a break.
Star: Ummm..🤔.. I see a lawsuit from you comparing these folks from serial killers... hopefully not though
no mud no lotus: I am definitely not a fan of Trisha. That said, what Jay did is absolutely disgusting. My concern isn't Trisha, although I hope she is faking how upset she is because I don't want anyone hurt that way. Jay was absolutely vile and unprofessional. I genuinely hope this hurts him in his wallet. I hope celebrities stop using and supporting him. If a celebrity continues to use him after seeing how horribly he can treat another human than I have no interest in supporting said celebrity. There are zero excuses for what he did. Zero. As for JS and his Merry band of mean girls, they're all awful. I stopped supporting JS a long time ago. I will never be responsible for putting a dime in his pocket. Love ya Jen!❤
Sai Luna: If you wouldn't of talked about this I wouldn't of known what happened, honestly my social media is filled with people I love and enjoy listing to so much, I'm going to take you're advise and not watch this video and go watch something all's but I love you Jen that will never change ☺️❤️
Ekaterina Drokina: I think everybody takes Trisha too seriously. "She's smart, she knows everything ahead." No, she doesn't. She knows only one thing : discussing her, even discussing her being evil person, brings money. Kardashians got it earlier. Are Kardashian's smart? I don't think so.
Alittle OddMe: Trisha is such a big troll and does clearly need help. Honestly at this point I don't think I can take her word but in general nobody should be bullied . likely she's mostly playing everybody just in my own personal opinion. No matter what mental illness and how you hurt people or what you do you still have to take responsibility for your actions.
Carolyn Steele: Well - it got a lot of looks on Jay and it got a lot of looks on her (again) so I have some seriously doubts about the entire episode. Again I use the term ‘episode’ purposely - cause it’s just a screenplay for her
Emily Nicole: They were supposed to have been a circle of friends so its not the same as a regular ppl in the comments. And thts wht hurt the most to her vs other randoms who may comment the same thing.
Jhw Webster: Clickbait title. Get that sweet, sweet Youtube money, girl.
Angel Cortes: You should change the title. You are being mean.
Patti 1962: I don't watch drama channels and people causing all the drama, so I didn't even know this was a thing. I debated with myself as to whether or not to watch this video, but I decided to trust you to handle it with truth. There are many traumatic events affecting many of us right now that I just can't expend any energy on these topics. All I can see are a group of people who seem to thrive on drama and hurting other people.
Gwendolyn Cordero: It's not alleged Jen. It happened and in person. Imagine on top of everything else the threats and body shaming being doxxed and having that person who doxxed you show up to your house! Not to mention you're bestfriend of 12 years stabbing you in the chest. You don't have to like or support Trisha I don't. But that doesn't mean you can't be more sensitive Jen. Comparing them to serial killers? Really.. I think that's going waayyy to far.
HALL LIFESTYLE: An no one deserves someone to be so incredibly aggressive! No matter if you believe she is lying or not you can clearing see how aggressive he was!
Mitchell Lambert: Everyone wants to talk about mental health awareness but when they actually see someone struggling (Trish) people want to discredit her and say she’s lying/ doing it for attention? Make it make sense,...
Tajah Deloris: Ofc everyone with bpd is different but having it myself that doesn’t make me act how she does. Im not saying she doesn’t have it but i dont think it’s something she can blame on bpd. Bpd is on a basic level is a lack of emotional consistency and control. I worry that if people see her as a famous face of bpd people we will be stigmatised even more with thinking we go around purposely offending or hurting people.
HALL LIFESTYLE: She would NEVER come out and say anything negative about Shane. That’s why I do believe her!
Marilyn Addams: I'm not defending Trisha because she's not a good person by any stretch of the imagination. But if you want to attack someone, go after the things they say and do because they have control over those things. Don't go after the way someone looks because that is a low blow I wouldn't even do for my worst enemy. There are so many things Trisha could be shit on for that don't involve appearances. Shit on her for treating metal health problems as a joke. Shit on her for treating politics, which, for many people is a life or death kind of issue, as a joke. Shit on her for treating different gender identities as a joke. Shit on her for any number of racist, sexist, homophobic, insensitive things that come out of her mouth. But never, no matter how shitty she is, stoop to attacking her for her looks.
Therese Assar: But yeah i agree with you that we cannot really trust Trisha with anything since she has lied so much for clout. But it also does not make that wig guy and Jeffree less of assholes
Therese Assar: You can't really compare a high functioning ADHD with bipolar disorder... (coming from a person with adhd working with people with bipolar). It's two very different way of function, and for bipolar you can function pretty much normal until you are in a manic or depressive episode. The emotions can be too overwhelming to handle.
Lisa Benning: Not a Trisha fan but hair/wig guy? He sounds like a mean girl in junior high school. I don't care how perfect u (think) you are or how much money you have. Looks, money, and possessions can be gone in an instant. It is sad that people like him have a platform. It is not ok to be mean and say ugly hurtful things about others.
dis murrart: Its possible it was just the final straw and was just really hurt by a build up of things. Either way I feel bad someone said and did what they did even if I strongly dislike her
Jessa K.: Why did they wait a whole year before sharing this story about Trisha? Seems kind of suspish! Is it wrong to think that this was planned by all/some parties involved to create drama? The drama has been pretty minimal in the beauty community over the last year in comparison to previous years (due to COVID), so maybe certain people involved created this because they wanted the attention and views that comes with the drama.
Mitchell Lambert: ..... Trisha’s feelings are 100% valid. I know you’re trying to be entertaining but ya maybe get the story straight before you go in lol he literally threatened her life and doxxed her! Please don’t compare her to a serial killer / murderer .... she has BPD so she doesn’t have full control of her emotions.
THEE Luanne Santos: Mad love for you Jen What they said/did was so disgusting! You don’t talk about/to anyone like that, especially someone that thought you were a friend! I don’t care for any of these people but I still feel awful for Trisha. I don’t understand why or how people can say things like that?! I can’t... I just can’t 🤦🏻♀️
MsFiebchen: I think the Trisha on Frenemies Podcast is the real Trisha und she is quite indearing.
HMM Makeup: How can adults behave that way. I don’t get it. When will they grow up....on their death bed? Not interested in watching any of them. Hard pass. Next!
HMM Makeup: Loving the intro jingle. 🤣
Laura Gal: This title is beyond disgusting
julia manrajos: Oh Jen..so happy to start my Sunday off with ur beautiful soul😍😍
Shawn G.: It was not what Jay said it was the fact that it came from people she thought were friends!
Nycco G.: Stop making stupid people famous ... maybe add awful people too.
Lindsay Hoffman: I do think Samantha R was being strategic, garnering attention by publicly denouncing Hourglass for lack of inclusivity, then shortly after debuting her luxury line where that’s the mission. It got her more publicity than she’d otherwise have had for her brand. Having said that, she’s not wrong about HG. Both things can be true at the same time. Successful business people look for opportunities to get their names out.
Caitlyn Guy: I think relating them to serial killers is a bit too far, that may be just me. But the title, although I laughed is a bit much. I’m not a fan of none of the people discussed in this video. I do think she has valid points in feeling the way she does in regards to people bullying her. And these were people who she thought were her friends.
Thotaissance: None of this is alleged... Jay and Jeffree confirmed the trip happened and that they bullied her, nothing here is alleged, it all happened unfortunately and it was fucking disgusting and unwarranted.
Shawn G.: I strongly disagree with your comments on Trisha. I am not a fan of her however no matter what someone does in their life no one should be talked and shamed like she was. True or not it was triggering to her it is triggering to others who were bullied for what was said by hair be jay. As for your defense of didosiadid you may want to check who your defending. If you have the feeling that Trisha is lying but you defend people that are just as good at lying. Disosodid is just as bad as anything Trisha has said.
LordAngie: Even if you don't believe her, the way that hair/wig guy was talking about her and demeaning her... was disgusting behavior.
Tay Wilburn: Rewatching the live stream. I think Trisha was so hurt because they presented themselves as friends of hers. They bullied her IN PERSON, which I think is quite different than random people on the internet you do not know. I also think they are poking at her insecurities too...stuff they know she is not comfortable about within herself, in regards to her appearance.
V: Love that you're keeping up with your natural hair.
Every day Autumn: They are all sociopaths
Melissa Stephan: This title 😂😂
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