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@Rienquelapulpe: Great vid ! thanks

@ryanjohnson2580: BRO. flamethrower is goated. Use it with the shield ability instead of winch. Spritz them once and let the fire do over time damage unless they are a heavy, get a good spray in and shield and let the fire cook em.

@IAreNotaPotato: Dogshit takes man

@johnnyandthepnuemoni: I feel like Embark missed a huge opportunity with the alt fire of the spear. Definitely would have been way more fun to throw the spear with the potential to pin enemy's to surfaces.

@9PanuwatGaming-ok5cg: ตึงจัด

@AbbeRustMojo: Is this guy on the way to become burnt out?

@chipsandcheese124: chad? or chat? i cant understand half the shit you say

@Cactacae: Counterpoint: I clipped the first cash box of a round into the ground using spear, forcing a victory for my team after the game ended

@bridger6647: I feel like you low balled the v9s, I’d have put it in A tier at least. It’s gotta be better than the sniper or revolver, and I’d take it any day over the Mac 11

@EctopicFrog07: The ks-23 also has a one-shot combo with the winch. For lights u can hook, shoot, melee. Mediums is less consistent but u can shoot, hook, shoot, melee and heavy is shoot, shoot, hook, shoot, melee. It also one-shots late game TA because it does 100 damage

@ADR_JaiDe_N: The M60 ends up being the best Heavy weapon RN? Yikes. They need to tweak some things next balance patch.

@fall5923: I'm still waiting for an underdog to take the king down.

@TeddyMac509: i saw you in a live match on a differnent team and it was so cool!!!!!!!!! THE OTTR in the same lobby!?!?!? lets goo!!! we knocked you out in round one btw!

@davidwilkinson4634: Nice

@kovxed: I hope you feel better soon ottr, I respect the grind brother💯

@damonmlinaric9254: Lh1 needs a hard nerf,it was already the best gun in the game but was at least hard to use.No point using anything else on light its that insane

@CalpolMeister: What if... Remove riot shield but make dual katanas' reflection ability be toggle like the riot shields' shield

@thecatmanyes: How do u turn off hud?

@ParrisCrockett: lol close your eyes and listen to the sound of my voice

@beyfan1000: Light - big cap. Throwing knifes is by far the most broken weapon in the game right now. It’s so fucking annoying. If they don’t patch it in the new update I don’t know what they are doing. It can outdamage any medium and heavy buildt

@Tom12Ok-qz8pk: My SH1900 is the strongest, tier S+. (Personal opinion)

@gaetanopezzino7795: In TA medium is half useless and heavy dosn't have that much fun weapon to use, but at same time it is good with utilities. Still heavy is so slow and with no real range weapons.

@josephborges359: Does he cough like that all stream?

@droid2522: I don’t know what he’s talking about cause I main bow and average 8 kills a game( usually in power shift

@EternalRedEclipse: Love how people like to complain “heavy is OP” but yet they don’t even have an S tier weapon. Medium class is busted and is much better at offense than most light builds.

@firstpersonsnooter2519: I actually think the bow is super smooth to use. It takes some time to get used to knowing when to hold and when to fire, but it’s really fun nonetheless.

@DxrkIron: This game is brutal for solo queue players like me all we get is retarded bums that have the brain of a fly I can't even compete some match I go 0_6 because I'm fighting the whole team alone while the bum teammates still die

@thomasbaldwin2801: when riot shielding, try putting up the shield between strikes, especially when they're using a shotgun, you can catch their rhythm with the shotgun and usually put up the shield when they shoot and hit them before the next shot

@Jesus_Christ_OfficialAccount: The flamethrower with the whinch is soooo good

@neverthelesz: Or all guns are now shit. I got like 200 ping after season 3. They really don't support swedens internet even tho one of them are swedes. Kinda sad, fix the servers or I'm out. Not fun.😢

@masonschaller405: Not gonna lie the shotgun for light suck’s like really bad

@Timayy: scar is immensely overrated

@teamstealth5233: Fun fact: If you use the spear spin attack on the power shift platform on a specific spot near the front, it will boost the platform forwards

@jayrock825mc7: I don’t know if anybody’s told you this, but sugar affects your immune system and affects your ability to fight off infections so all your energy drinks you drink probably daily that is weakening your immune system and makes you sick longer which makes your videos suck when you speak so sugar, bad vitamin D good as a basis

@justjay7093: Does anyone feel like dual katanas and the bow would’ve been far better if they swapped classes?

@onepunchdoggo: I really wish embark would stop balancing their guns with weird recoil patterns. It just makes the gunplay feel worse for most people. If they would focus more on range and time to kill to balance the guns and gave each gun a unique recoil patter without it being over the top, gunplay would feel soooo much better.

@351hang: heavy can't fight long range now. lewis gun has way too much recoil

@akahayden: Bow should be higher

@myztklk3v: they nerfed the sawed off in season 1 and now after the s3 buff it's stronger than it was S1 pre-nerf which is baffling.

@myztklk3v: LH1 got a buff but feels like a nerf as someone whose mained it since betas, it feels so bad to use now.

@rjjohn2241: Lights are way to over powered this season pls fix embark

@parz1val972: Fcar in s tier? Naaaaahhh man. Ak only needs 1 more bullet to kill, shoots faster and has 11 bullets more. These 2 weapons should not be in the same Tier

@bolestah: I thought they'd remove MGL and CL-40 this season as they are useless.

@BioMachineEnjoyer: Big hate for removing: hold backstab attack ability,it was unnecessary

@wisecrack3461: I think if I were balancing the game i'd bump down the S and A tiers to be in line with B tier to keep a longer ttk and incentivize players to try riskier weapons at all levels of play. Balancing around weapons that have more meat to them conceptually than "You shoot the guy" feels a lot more original and gives the game more of a personal identity.

@Bagginsess: I hope they buff the damage of the revolver or at the very least fix the hit reg on it.

@medstrrr: lol bro half assed the whole video

@ValenteVillanuevaMusic: Sledgehammer with the goo gun is so powerful. Got into diamond three from gold with only sledge + goo. You can block shots and freeze enemies with the goo gun and easily reach them with the sledge. You can also prevent a steal with just shooting a goo into the enemy. Super powerful as you don’t have to kill the enemy to prevent a steal

@DungeonUW: True, Heavy's weapons feel a little lacking after the recoil changes to Lewis and M60, Heavy in Season 3 very much feels like "We gave you the winch now play aggressive or you won't succeed".

@Sickonaut: Dude is tripping. Throwing Knives is a absolute S tier. It's broken asf after the buff

@wisecrack3461: "You're supposed to be inside the enemy team" -ottr

@haykisayan2206: I like how u shit talk a weapon but are popping off in the footage xD great vid! Personally love the cloak + mp5 combo

@ghostu9607: 3:20 odd nitpick but I find that I land headshots (especially with spray and burst weapons) in The Finals wayyyy more than other FPS titles. I do think balancing a weapon with like headshot consistency in mind is a lil silly, but curious to see if other people have a similar experience

@wisecrack3461: The V9S having such bad recoil animations is so annoying considering it's literally a hyper innovative competition pistol that specifically avoids recoil in the manner shown.

@Glaive8: Great video but I super disagree with the spear, sure the aoe is bad but the damage is so consistent with the regular with winch it's pretty much a guaranteed win in one v ones with any class

@135Jaeger531: Think flamethrower should be higher just for its objective pushing strength. Very good for clearing gas from cash out

@FlaggermusMann_: I’ve been playing a ton with the famas after the buffs and I’ve been loving it so much!

@snaggyak: AKM is still goated

@PepTwo: Yea agree dual swords isn't really meta, but it's the most fun weapon I've tried if we're just fkin around, and yeah absolutely better than riot shield.

@mattiello17: Curti antes de começar, conteúdo do cara é muito louco voce tá é louco

@recklessbambi6105: Personally this feels accurate, But the M11 is def a S tier for me as im always pushing 15+ kills with it in a single match, and same eith the throwing knives, ever since the buff ive been addicted to them

@Meekmillz27: The game is dead

@MoonyTheBat: I think they should release weapons in an overtuned state rather than undertuned. That way things feel fresh and new with people actually using these weapons, and it gets people to try them out and learn how to use them so if they get nerfed, there will still be people that use them.

@bacon5736: Dagger is only good if you put the time in and learn how to dash through players for the backstab. Only melee that beats me is the sledge hammer if timed right other then that dagger is on top of

@eleveneleven3474: Man this dude is so boring he wants an ak of scar on every class. I laughed when he put a flamethrower in D, me who get a diamond with it.

@PEPPERslim_: How the hell does such a tiny blade on a spear translate to aoe damage when they swing it around like a lightsaber? Does it work irl?

@beeyee9705: I feel like hating on sword tecks like phantom strike is so petty, considering how hard they are to pull off consistently. If you have put in enough time to learn something crazy like this, then you deserve respect. Also, I've never seen someone pull it off in a real game apart from super sweaty streemers, so it's not too big of a deal 😅

@TriFekt: Don't worry, lights will still find something to complain about. I've seen people STILL complain about the winch claw, even though heavy has laughable weapons rn.

@clvr51: I'm still convinced Dual Blades and Sword should be swapped. I know why they haven't, since one has been there from the start and the other hasn't, but still I think deflection could've been more useful for Lights.

@Drybread: Honestly I love the bow. It's definitely not great per se but I've had some really good luck with it while playing, it just takes a lot of skill to do well with. Also I feel like melee weapons, especially on medium, need some sort of buff to make it easier to close the gap. Maybe slightly faster move speed but idk. Definitely disappointed that some of the new weapons are mid again though and would like to see that change.

@1989DarthBalls: Bro this game is Team Fortress 2 on steroids...its such a brilliant concept

@deegee6062: While the MGL on the heavy is definitely not good, don't let that dissuade you from trying it, after a couple of games practicing the bounces it can be an incredibly fun gun to mess around with in casual, trying to figure out the bounce paths on the fly to bounce nades off walls, roofs, and corners to hit enemies is extremely satisfying, and if you combine it with charge and the rpg you can have crazy splash damage potential and wipe out whole teams at once! It is also fun to run it with the motion sensor to try and bounce the nades around corners when you detect someone. It will however lose to basically anything if someone gets in your face, and certain maps or variants without a lot of walls and buildings will be really rough to play with it, but on the right maps in casual it can be one of the most fun guns in the game in my opinion

@ShootFirstNS: MGL should be buffed and turned into a heavy special, if it actually had impact it'd be great to pull out at the start of a fight to cause chaos

@bombdiggaty8795: M60 is so fun this season

@firstbreath1371: Personally i found Famas as a amazing weapon for Light stacked games. You delete rats at range and also has a good enough hipfire to maul them upclose

@WolfAvid: Only weapon I disagree on in this list is the dual blades, I think they can be moved up to D teir.

@VibesEdits: The problems the finals has is it continues to add Mid to Shitty weapons every season and nothing that tops the meta, leading to the typical player feeling like nothing really changed and getting bored. We shouldn't been waiting 3 months for a new map + useless weapons.

@arturocastillo740: The heavy nerfs are the reason why I quit this game. So disappointed in them and I miss this game prior to all the nerfs

@BattlebornReapers: DISCLAIMER: This is a well set list for PC! Console will have a different feel!

@laertes9601: new season is amazing so far thanks for the content

@turtleberries7530: I am stunned by that throwing knife rating. Ive been mowing through whole teams with those

@dtoodlez513: Loving the dual swords, the only time I’ve ever enjoyed a melee weapon in any game ever.

@dtoodlez513: I feel that you should take movement into account. Burst weapons or shotguns allow for movement between shots. Swords as well.

@piggwardd: something to note for newer players is this is a very good list for ease of use and versatility but an important thing to know os that the devs of this game have done a fantastic job with implementing very high skill ceilings on all the weapons. So just because riot shield and MGL are F tier that does not mean they cannot be used effectively. This is one of my favorite things about this game and what I think separates it from other FPS games like COD. Your many mobility options and abundance of varying team comps and strategies is what truly makes each weapon shine.

@kuzidas4213: KS23 and winch claw together is insane. If you are fast (takes only a little bit of practice) you can shoot and quick melee a light before they get to act and combined with the 15 damage from the winch claw the combo fully kills them

@thejfj: 13:25 for light 20:49 for light/med 31:49 all classes

@Zlittlepenguin: I actually don’t think the spear should be in F tier lol I get what you’re saying about it just being a worse sledgehammer, but the added range of the spear feels a lot better when you’re chasing people. I would personally put the spear right next to the sledgehammer in C.

@BlueMe6: 700TH LIKE! WOOOOOO!

@sakenxyz: v9s red dot would go hard

@Kalefromai: I love everyone dissing on the backstab knife, stop using it like a tf2 knife. Grab dash and do drive by backstabs. When you play well, that knife can seem so dam janky and give you so many bs backstabs.

@asuraphreak: I genuinely believe anyone who uses the stupid riot shield is a cod fan.

@georgy.design: Talked to ottr about Riot Shield on stream, but I will share my thoughts here too with MELEES REVIEW 📝⚔️ Note: as a melee user be I can say that ottr does not know how to play with melee weapons well. I think it is important to keep this in mind. • Sword B tier at least. I agree with ottr that you can rock with it in some lobbies, and it is true. You can still rock with it in high ranks too, but it depends a lot of teammates there. I mained Sword a lot, it is incredibly amazing. Not C tier by any means. However, again, keep in mind that you will def suck if your team is bad and enemy team plays as a team and coordinate their actions well. • Dual Katanas I do agree with ottr, but I believe good katanas user can deflect shots back at an enemy really well. I think it should be D at least. It is really fun and combo potential is really good. Survivability depends a lot on the lobby — sometimes it is better than Riot Shield, other times it is not. • Riot Shield A reason I’m making this comment. D at least, I would even up it to C, but it really depends on the lobby. As for the reason: I joined ottr’s stream, I saw him playing with Riot Shield — he did not play well. For some reason, he did not utilize block a lot and definitely did not do it in must-use situations. It was like playing with Sword, but not using secondary attack (lunge). I can very easily 1v1 like 90% of players who use guns with Riot Shield in most situations. The combo with block is really insane. ottr is right that it is countered by many things in the game like flamethrower and melee weapons — however if you have a reliable teammate nearby, then you are a menace, especially if you have a healer. Riot Shield slaps really hard and it is very fun. Even though I main Sword, I do like to use Riot Shield because it is really fun. And viable too! However, the reason why I am not sure about C tier is viability in high rank lobbies — if an enemy team is well coordinated, then you are dead for sure. Good teammates will definitely help a lot, but 1v2 fight can be deadly in this case, I guess. • Sledgehammer Agree with ottr, it is good. • Spear It is really good too use, I f-ing loved it! It is extremely fun and quite versatile. It is definitely D tier. Moreover you can move cashout and enemy statues with it which is INSANE. ottr is right though about the damage output being inconsistent — I think main attack is good in this regard, but secondary attack, the wave attack, is very inconsistent: sometimes you slap and really hard with it, but other times you deal no damage at all. Still it is very fun weapon, and I am actually surprised that I like it more than Dual Katanas because I was all about melee weapon with deflecting feature — Spear is just a meme maker. P.S: ottr’s simps, please do not @ me and provide a constructive feedback. I do watch ottr too and I like his content, but it does not mean he can play really well with any weapon in the game. Moreover it does not make him always right. Please keep it in mind.

@piggwardd: Imo the M11 is by far the most viable light weapon, that thing absolutely shreds. Also the spear should move up to at least A tier, while spit attack isn't great the damage output is absolutely nutty and i've dropped several 15+ kill games with it

@fufu1405: Really should have included chapters in the video...

@caseymurray7722: The mgl32 is a situational weapon for sure. It's one of the few guns that can wipe a team in terminal attack if they are bunched up holding the platform. The destructive damage should be higher imo. Situational weapons where you can quickly switch to go for a play is where non meta weapons (and gadgets) should be used. Changing it to make grenades stick to players and then explode would be an option to buff it to make it more viable as a main weapon.

@zrestonc: LH1 busted

@gammartageon76: 11:20 buddy did 21 kills with throwing knifes and put them in B tier

@tygerthecreator2860: Season 3 TA sucks. they should stick to cashout for tournaments

@KramAngel: So we must use always the same weapon. AK LoVE

@circaen: If you strafe in a circle while shooting the double katanas they go down fast & you take little to no damage. The cone it deflects in is so small it's easy to strafe out of while hip firing. Been wrecking Katana boys with this.